Skill Capping Question - Guild Wars Forums

greywolf31 · Sep 25, 2007, 06:25 PM // 18:25

Hi All,
I don't know if this has been asked or not, but my searches didn't turn up what I want to know.

Is there a way to Cap Elite Factions skills without having the Factions expansion?

I am trying to setup different builds and of course most of them have one or more Factions skills elite or not.

Does anyone know if there is a posted list of capturable Factions skills from Nightfall or EoN NPC Bosses?

LMK and THX

Todd

EDIT: FYI - I have all but the Factions expansion.

Earth · Sep 25, 2007, 06:33 PM // 18:33

You can cap them, but you can't use them. So even if you cap them, it's for nothing. Sorry.

Diddy bow · Sep 25, 2007, 06:33 PM // 18:33

Some factions skills are avalible in eotn as far as i know, however capping (or otherwise getting) a skill in a campain you dont own wont let you use it, it will show up "locked" similar as to when you bring a pve skill to pvp.

greywolf31 · Sep 25, 2007, 06:42 PM // 18:42

Thanks for the quick reply...

Ok, so last night I capped Fireball, so It really isn't working when I use it?

It takes energy and runs it's timer, but it dosen't work?

LMK and Thanks

Todd

Tutis Evito · Sep 25, 2007, 06:44 PM // 18:44

Just to put a spanner in the works...if you cap lets say a faction only skills from NF/GWEN though you cannot use it if you dont own GW:F does it count towards skill hunter title?

Isileth · Sep 25, 2007, 06:48 PM // 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by greywolf31

Thanks for the quick reply...

Ok, so last night I capped Fireball, so It really isn't working when I use it?

It takes energy and runs it's timer, but it dosen't work?

LMK and Thanks

Todd

Fireball is a core skill. So thats fine.

greywolf31 · Sep 25, 2007, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tutis Evito

Just to put a spanner in the works...if you cap lets say a faction only skills from NF/GWEN though you cannot use it if you dont own GW:F does it count towards skill hunter title?

I also capped "Master of Magic" (Elite)
I capped both Fireball and MoM from Captain Mwende (Consulate Docks Mission)
I now have the "Canthan Elite Skill Hunter - 1/120" in my Hero Panel

-T

EDIT: I also capped Lightning Surge as well but it is core.

Earth · Sep 25, 2007, 07:42 PM // 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by greywolf31

I also capped "Master of Magic" (Elite)
I capped both Fireball and MoM from Captain Mwende (Consulate Docks Mission)
I now have the "Canthan Elite Skill Hunter - 1/120" in my Hero Panel

-T

EDIT: I also capped Lightning Surge as well but it is core.

Core skills count toward all title tracks - Tyrian, Canthan and Elonian. MoM is an Elonian elite skill, so it counts towards the Elonian skill hunter track. Fireball is not an elite, so it doesn't count toward the elite title track.

Smile Like Umean It · Sep 25, 2007, 08:53 PM // 20:53

Am I missing something?
Forget about whether it's locked or not, how is he going to cap a skill when he can't switch to /A or /Rit?
At least the last time I checked, you couldn't change your secondary unless you had the corresponding campaign.

Unless he's asking about elite skills from core professions that are also located in other campaigns. In which case, disregard this post.... though technically, I wouldn't consider them Factions' skills if they could be gotten else where.

*sigh* My semantics will confuzzle me soon.

greywolf31 · Sep 25, 2007, 09:16 PM // 21:16

So to recap, and see if I got this straight...

If I cap any Factions skill (or skill from a expansion not owned) it will not work, but I will have it.

Any Elite skill that is in multiple expansions will show in it's respective title track regardless if you own that expansion.

And finally if you don't have a particular expansion you cannot change to that expansion's respective char class/s as a secondary.

*******************************************

Well it looks as though I need to drop $40.00 for Factions.

Thanks All!

Todd

Mohnzh · Sep 26, 2007, 03:13 PM // 15:13

Actually, suppose you have no elite skills. Then you go and cap something called a "core elite". This means that you can obtain it in any campaign. All three title tracks will then show up indicating that you have capped 1 skill from each campaign.

Most elite skills (and many regular skills), however, are not core skill (universally available skills). If you manage to obtain one in EotN that is designated to a specific campaign which you do not own, it will show up as locked in your skill list. Whether it counts towards your title progression is irrelevant until you own the corresponding campaign. The reason for this is as was said above. You cannot switch to the Rt or A secondaries to obtain any of their elites. But if you purchase the campaign, it will be counted towards that title track.

I think factions is worth it. All of my favorite elites I capped in Cantha.

Sep 25, 2007, 06:25 PM // 18:25	#1
greywolf31 Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Western MA, USA Guild: BHG Profession: E/Me	Skill Capping Question Hi All, I don't know if this has been asked or not, but my searches didn't turn up what I want to know. Is there a way to Cap Elite Factions skills without having the Factions expansion? I am trying to setup different builds and of course most of them have one or more Factions skills elite or not. Does anyone know if there is a posted list of capturable Factions skills from Nightfall or EoN NPC Bosses? LMK and THX Todd EDIT: FYI - I have all but the Factions expansion.

Sep 25, 2007, 06:33 PM // 18:33	#2
Earth Always Outnumbered Join Date: Jul 2006	You can cap them, but you can't use them. So even if you cap them, it's for nothing. Sorry.

Sep 25, 2007, 06:33 PM // 18:33	#3
Diddy bow Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!! Guild: looking for one :p Profession: A/D	Some factions skills are avalible in eotn as far as i know, however capping (or otherwise getting) a skill in a campain you dont own wont let you use it, it will show up "locked" similar as to when you bring a pve skill to pvp.

Sep 25, 2007, 06:42 PM // 18:42	#4
greywolf31 Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Western MA, USA Guild: BHG Profession: E/Me	Thanks for the quick reply... Ok, so last night I capped Fireball, so It really isn't working when I use it? It takes energy and runs it's timer, but it dosen't work? LMK and Thanks Todd

Sep 25, 2007, 06:44 PM // 18:44	#5
Tutis Evito Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England,UK Guild: Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM] Profession: R/	Just to put a spanner in the works...if you cap lets say a faction only skills from NF/GWEN though you cannot use it if you dont own GW:F does it count towards skill hunter title?

Sep 25, 2007, 08:53 PM // 20:53	#9
Smile Like Umean It Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: E/Rt	Am I missing something? Forget about whether it's locked or not, how is he going to cap a skill when he can't switch to /A or /Rit? At least the last time I checked, you couldn't change your secondary unless you had the corresponding campaign. Unless he's asking about elite skills from core professions that are also located in other campaigns. In which case, disregard this post.... though technically, I wouldn't consider them Factions' skills if they could be gotten else where. sigh My semantics will confuzzle me soon.

Sep 25, 2007, 09:16 PM // 21:16	#10
greywolf31 Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Western MA, USA Guild: BHG Profession: E/Me	So to recap, and see if I got this straight... If I cap any Factions skill (or skill from a expansion not owned) it will not work, but I will have it. Any Elite skill that is in multiple expansions will show in it's respective title track regardless if you own that expansion. And finally if you don't have a particular expansion you cannot change to that expansion's respective char class/s as a secondary. ******************************************* Well it looks as though I need to drop $40.00 for Factions. Thanks All! Todd

Sep 26, 2007, 03:13 PM // 15:13	#11
Mohnzh Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Might find me roaming around doing missions in hard mode...or maybe I'm lost in the Underworld... Guild: [KCOR] Profession: Mo/	Actually, suppose you have no elite skills. Then you go and cap something called a "core elite". This means that you can obtain it in any campaign. All three title tracks will then show up indicating that you have capped 1 skill from each campaign. Most elite skills (and many regular skills), however, are not core skill (universally available skills). If you manage to obtain one in EotN that is designated to a specific campaign which you do not own, it will show up as locked in your skill list. Whether it counts towards your title progression is irrelevant until you own the corresponding campaign. The reason for this is as was said above. You cannot switch to the Rt or A secondaries to obtain any of their elites. But if you purchase the campaign, it will be counted towards that title track. I think factions is worth it. All of my favorite elites I capped in Cantha.